Professor Alice Roberts

  • Channel 4's second episode of 'Ancient Greece by Train' aired on Saturday 22nd March.

    Professor Alice Roberts took viewers on a her second leg of a train journey to explore Ancient Greece. This time she was headed to Athens, looking at the birth of Democracy, exploring the origins of theatre, discovering ancient inscriptions that ensured we learned so much about Greece's ancient past, not least meeting with Greece's Minister of Culture, Dr Lina Mendoni to ask about the continued division of the Parthenon Marbles!

    This programme is one watch and we are grateful for Alice's conversation with Dr Mendoni too. As the British Museum appoints five new Trustees and is soon to begin the reimagining of the Western Range which includes Room 18 part of the British Museum's Parthenon Galleries, public opinion in the UK continues to support the return of these sculptures to Greece. It is Greece's only ask, an ask which we feel is totally justified especially as we consider that the BM holds 108,184 Greek artefacts, of which only 6,493 are even on display.

    BCRPM's campaign, which begun in 1983 continues.

    Professor Alice Roberts asks Dr Mendoni: "In your lifetime would you like to see the Marbles come back from Britain to the Parthenon?"

    Greece's Culture Minister, Dr Lina Mendoni takes a moment when she is smiling and sighing before responding with a firm voice: "This is a very strong desire and goal for the Greek people at the national level. We have all been working on it now for the last years. The government has made systematic efforts. Prime Minister Mitsotakis himself has worked on this issue and continues to do so.

    I believe that the tide is turning. Time is approaching when these sculptures will return to the Attic light. This is what we believe in and what we strive for, what we are talking about now, is not just about a return but reunification."

    Alice goes on to also ask: "What would it mean to Greece to have those Marbles back?"

    Lina responds with enthusiasm: "This means a lot. It means reclaiming a part of the identity of a monument, which is universal and belongs to the whole world. We modern Greeks see ourselves as custodians of this monument. However, this monument that symbolises Western civilisation is also part of the identity of the Greek people. This is not only the desire of the Greek people, it was also the vision of Lord Byron."

    Alice: "Absolutely!"

    Lina: "Byron was at the time, the one who witnessed first hand the violence and theft of the Parthenon. I think that the impression it made on him played a catalytic role not just for his political activities but his intellectual standing."

    Alice: "I don't know why it seems so complicated, to me it is very straightforward, they should be back in Athens."

    Lina: "Absolutely! And this will happen eventually. Let's hope it happens as we honour the memory of Lord Byron's 200th anniversary since his death."   

     

     

     

  • 'British Museum is right to keep Parthenon marbles, says new trustee. Historian Dr Tiffany Jenkins is one of the line up of new appointees that has raised cultural and historical hackles' are the headlines of Vanessa Thorpe's article in the Observer.

    Tiffany has written a book and stated that the Parthenon Marbles can continue to remain divided and tell two different stories, a narrative used by the BM for some time. Tiffany also visited the Acropolis Museum and spoke at the Art for Tomorrow event in Athens 16-20 June 2022. The panel debating 'Who Really Owns Art?' a complex question surrounding restitution issues faced by many museums included Tristram Hunt, Tiffany JenkinsVictor Ehikhamenor, and was moderated by Farah Nayeri. The setting, the Acropolis Museum's terrace with direct views to the Parthenon did not sway Tiffany.

    We would like to remind readers of BCRPM's late Chair Eddie O'Hara's response to Tiffanyand BCRPM member, Dr Peter Thonemann's article in the TSL (2016). Peter writes:

    "You will not be surprised to learn that Jenkins is a repatriation sceptic. There are, she thinks, “good reasons for the continued separation of the two sets, and for the retention and display of the Elgin Marbles in the British Museum”. For example, she is particularly struck by the fact that “It is not possible to call any of the pieces from the Parthenon, when isolated from the others, inartistic. What is so interesting about them is that they are still magnificent when standing alone”. This strikes me as a curious argument. Take an analogy drawn, once again, by Christopher Hitchens: imagine that the Mona Lisa had been sawn in half during the Napoleonic wars, and that one half had ended up in a museum in Copenhagen, the other in Lisbon. Neither half, isolated from the other, would be inartistic; each would still be magnificent when standing alone. But that would not be a good reason for their continued separation from one another."

     PM Mitsotakis also used the Mona Lisa as an example when he spoke with Laura Kuenssberg (November 2023).

    In Sunday's Observer article, Vanessa Thorpe writes: "The latest appointments to the British Museum’s trustees include an academic expert opposed to the ­restitution of stolen antiquities, Dr Tiffany Jenkins, author of Keeping Their Marbles.

    In her book Keeping Their Marbles: How the Treasures of the Past Ended up in Museums… and Why They Should Stay There, Jenkins examined the influences behind the high-profile battle to return museum artefacts in an attempt to repair historical wrongs. Her views are at odds with those of another well-known historian and broadcaster, Professor Alice Roberts, who recently met the Greek culture minister, Lina Mendoni,while filming her series on Ancient Greece for Channel 4."

    We sincerely hope that Dr Tiffany Jenkins will begin to appreciate that the story of these sculptures, should they become reunited in Athens, deserve a new chapter. A chapter that extolls understanding and empathy, whilst encouraging cultural cooperation in the 21st century.

    Institutions across the world in recent years have begun to acknowledge the importance of returning significant cultural items while still promoting global access to heritage. As  the Metropolitan Museum of Art returned the bronze griffin head to the  Archaeological Museum of Olympia, Dr Lina Mendoni, Greece's Minister of Culture and Sport spoke at the event held in Olympia last week acknowledging that Greece has agreed to loan the griffin head back to the Metropolitan Museum of Art for future exhibitions. 

    Admittedly lending parts of the Parthenon sculptures to London will be more complex than lending the bronze griffin head to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, but here's to a future for the Parthenon Marbles where they can, at long last, re-join their other halves in the Parthenon Gallery of the Acropolis Museum. 

  • On Saturday 15 March, at 20:00 on Channel 4, Professor Alice Roberts travels across Greece and thousands of years of our collective past. Watch: Ancient Greece by Train with Alice Roberts.

    Today on social media, Alice Roberts posted:  

    "Watch out for Ancient Greece by Train - coming to Channel 4 this Saturday - 15th March!
    In the course of filming, I met up with the Greek Minister of Culture, Lina Mendoni, and we had a chat about the Parthenon marbles..."

    PLUS writing in the Radio Times, Professor Alice Roberts states: "We can recognise injustices and do something about that today." 

    "A theme running through much of the work I do – in my books and television programmes – is the importance of place in history. Monuments intended for a certain site, a certain landscape, become divorced of context when they are removed to another place.

    Artefacts that carry cultural significance in the place where they were made and found not only become divorced from their history but become totems of antagonism and antipathy between different groups – emblems of old power struggles that some seem keen to keep aflame.

    There’s not a single answer. Sometimes objects will be gifted – and connections strengthened by that exchange – as they have been through history (and prehistory). An example of art from a distant land may bring us closer – make us more cognisant of our common humanity.

    But when the removal, export and effective incarceration of cultural artefacts is carried out in a way that feels unwelcome, unintended or unconsented, it can be very damaging indeed.

    I’m not saying that this is how the debate about the Parthenon marbles should be framed. But I don’t think this is a question we should just ignore.

    And that’s why, when I was filming my new Channel 4 series Ancient Greece by Train and I was lucky enough to secure an interview to speak with the Greek minister of culture, Lina Mendoni, I grasped the opportunity to ask her what she felt about this issue: about those marbles from the Parthenon that currently reside in the British Museum.
     
    I started the interview asking Mendoni about her own research and interest in ancient Greek inscriptions, as well as the pressures of balancing tourism with protecting heritage – a pressing problem in Greece, which has ample quantities of both. And then I asked her about the Parthenon marbles – dating from the 5th century BC – and she expressed a sincere desire to see them returned to Greece.
     
    I have to agree with her on that: I think they belong back in Athens. It’s not equivalent, but I imagine we might be pretty upset in England if another country had significant bits of Stonehenge and wouldn’t give them back.
     
    But actually, the argument goes deeper than that. There’s a pressing need to recognise some of the questionable practices of the past, which often went hand in hand with the history of colonialism. We can’t undo that history, and we should seek to understand it rather than erase it.
     
    But we can recognise injustices and do something about that today. And for those who say, "But won’t this set a precedent? Will we have anything left in our museums?" I would respond: worrying about "setting a precedent" is never a good argument for not doing what you consider to be morally right." Professor Alice Roberts.
     
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